Children and Young Persons Act 1969

25 Transfers between England or Wales and Northern Ireland. E+W

(1) If it appears to the Secretary of State, on the application of the welfare authority or the managers of the training school to whose care a person is committed [F1 by a relevant order], that his parent or guardian resides or will reside in the area of a local authority in England or Wales, the Secretary of State may make an order committing him to the care of that local authority; and while an order under this subsection is in force it shall have effect [F2 F3 . . .as if it were a supervision order imposing a residence requirement as mentioned in section 12AA of this Act.]

[F4 (1A) In subsection (1) above “by a relevant order” means—

(a) by a fit person order;

(b) by virtue of a training school order; or

(c) by an order under subsection (2) below;

where the order in question is not by virtue of Schedule 8 to the Children (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 deemed to be a care order within the meaning of that Order.]

(2) If it appears to the [F5 the Secretary of State], on the application of the local authority to whose care a person is committed by a care order [F6 to which paragraph 36 of Schedule 14 to the Children Act (criminal care order transitional provisions) applies] other than an interim order [F6 or who is to accommodate a person pursuant to a supervision order imposing a residence requirement as mentioned in section 12AA of this Act][F7 or by an order under subsection (1) above], that his parent or guardian resides or will reside in Northern Ireland, [F5 the Secretary of State] may make an order committing him to the care of the managers of a training school or to the care of the welfare authority in whose area his parent or guardian resides or will reside and the provisions of the M1 Children and Young Persons Act (Northern Ireland) 1968 (except sections [F8 88(3) and 90] shall apply to an order under this subsection as if it were a training school order made on the date of the care order or, as the case may be, [F8 the supervision order].

If an order under this subsection commits a person to the care of the managers of a training school, the contributions to be made in respect of him under section 161 of the said Act of 1968 shall be made by such council as may be named in that order, being the council within whose district his parent proposes to reside or is residing at the time of the order.

(3) When a person is received into the care of a local authority or welfare authority or the managers of a training school in pursuance of an order under this section, the training school order, fit person order [F9 , care order or supervision order] in consequence of which the order under this section was made shall cease to have effect; and the order under this section shall, unless it is discharged earlier, cease to have effect—

(a) in the case of an order under subsection (1), on the earlier of the following dates, that is to say, the date when the person to whom the order relates attains the age of nineteen or the date when, by the effluxion of time, the fit person order aforesaid would have ceased to have effect or, as the case may be, the period of his detention under the training school order aforesaid would have expired;

(b) in the case of an order under subsection (2), on the date when the care order [F10 or supervision order] aforesaid would have ceased to have effect by the effluxion of time or—

F11 (i) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(ii) if the order has effect by virtue of subsection (2) as a training school order and the period of supervision following the detention of the person in question in pursuance of the order expires before that date, when that period expires.

(4) An order under this section shall be sufficient authority for the detention in Northern Ireland, by any constable or by a person duly authorised by a local authority or welfare authority or the managers of a training school, of the person to whom the order relates until he is received into the care of the authority or managers to whose care he is committed by the order.

(5) In this section “training school”, “training school order” and “welfare authority” have the same meaning as in the said Act of 1968, and “fit person order” means an order under that Act committing a person to the care of a fit person.

Extent Information

E1 This version of this provision extends to E.W. only; a separate version has been created for N.I. only

Textual Amendments

F1 Words in s. 25(1) substituted (4.11.1996) by S.I. 1995/756, art. 7(2); S.R. (N.I.) 1996/297, art.3

F2 Words in s. 25(1) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(a)(ii)

F3 Words in s. 25(1) repealed (4.11.1996) by S.I. 1995/756, art. 15, Sch.; S.R. (N.I.) 1996/297, art.3

F4 S. 25(1A) inserted (4.11.1996) by S.I. 1995/756, art. 7(3); S.R. (N.I.) 1996/297, art. 3

F5 Words substituted (N.I.) by virtue of S.I. 1973/2163, arts. 2(1), 11(5), Sch. 1

F6 Words in s. 25(2) inserted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(b)(i)(ii)

F7 Words inserted by Health and Social Services and Social Security Ajudications Act 1983 (c. 41, SIF 113:3), Sch. 2 para. 15

F8 Words in s. 25(2) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(b)(iv)(v)

F9 Words in s. 25(3) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(c)(ii)

F10 Words in s. 25(3)(b) inserted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(c)(iii)

F11 S. 25(3)(b)(i) omitted (14.10.1991) by virtue of S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(c)(iv)

Modifications etc. (not altering text)

C1 Ss. 25, 26: power to amend conferred (14.10.1991) by Children Act 1989 (c. 41, SIF 20), s. 101(5)(a), (with Sch. 14 para. 1(1)); S.I. 1991/828, art. 3(2)

C2 S. 25(2) excluded by Army Act 1955 (c. 18, SIF 7:1), Sch. 5A para 7(4), Air Force Act 1955 (c. 19, SIF 7:1), Sch 5A para 7(4) and Naval Discipline Act 1957 (c. 53, SIF 7:1), Sch. 4A para 7(4) (Schs. 5A para. 7(3) of the said Acts of 1955 and Sch. 4A para. 7(3) of the Act 1957 substituted (14.10.1991) by Children Act 1989 (c. 41, SIF 20), s. 108(4), Sch. 12 paras. 8, 10, 18, (with Sch. 14 para. 1(1)); S.I. 1991/828, art. 3(2))

Marginal Citations

M1 1968 c. 34 (N.I.)

25 Transfers between England or Wales and Northern Ireland. N.I.

(1) If it appears to the Secretary of State, on the application of the [F12 Ministry of Home Affairs for Northern Ireland (in this section referred to as the Ministry of Home Affairs)] or the managers of the training school to whose care a person is committed [F13 by a relevant order], that his parent or guardian resides or will reside in the ’area of a local authority in England or Wales, the Secretary of State may make an order committing him to the care of that local authority; and while an order under this subsection is in force it shall have effect [F14 F15 . . . as if it were a supervision order imposing a residence requirement as mentioned in section 12AA of this Act]

[F16 (1A) In subsection (1) above “by a relevant order” means—

(a) by a fit person order;

(b) by virtue of a training school order; or

(c) by an order under subsection (2) below;

where the order in question is not by virtue of Schedule 8 to the Children (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 deemed to be a care order within the meaning of that Order.]

(2) If it appears to the [F17 the Secretary of State], on the application of the local authority to whose care a person is committed by a care order [F18 to which paragraph 36 of Schedule 14 to the Children Act (criminal care order transitional provions) applies] other than an interim order [F18 or who is to accomodate a person pursuant to a supervision order imposing a residence requirement as mentioned in section 12AA] [F19 or by an order under subsection (1) above], that his parent or guardian resides or will reside in Northern Ireland, [F17 the Secretary of State] may make an order committing him to the care of the managers of a training school F20 . . . and the provisions of the M2 Children and Young Persons Act (Northern Ireland) 1968 (except sections [F21 88(3) and 90] shall apply to an order under this subsection as if it were a training school order made on the date of the care order or, as the case may be, [F22 the supervision order].

F23 . . .

(3) When a person is received into the care of a local authority F24 . . . or the managers of a training school in pursuance of an order under this section, the training school order, fit person order [F25 , care order or supervision order] in consequence of which the order under this section was made shall cease to have effect; and the order under this section shall, unless it is discharged earlier, cease to have effect—

(a) in the case of an order under subsection (1), on the earlier of the following dates, that is to say, the date when the person to whom the order relates attains the age of nineteen or the date when, by the effluxion of time, the fit person order aforesaid would have ceased to have effect or, as the case may be, the period of his detention under the training school order aforesaid would have expired;

(b) in the case of an order under subsection (2), on the date when the care order [F26 or supervision order] or aforesaid would have ceased to have effect by the effluxion of time or—

F27 (i) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(ii) if the order has effect by virtue of subsection (2) as a training school order and the period of supervision following the detention of the person in question in pursuance of the order expires before that date, when that period expires.

(4) An order under this section shall be sufficient authority for the detention in Northern Ireland, by any constable or by a person duly authorised by a local authority F28 . . . or the managers of a training school, of the person to whom the order relates until he is received into the care of the authority F28 . . . or managers to whose care he is committed by the order.

(5) In this section ”training school” [F29 and “training school order”] have the same meaning as in the said Act of 1968, and “fit person order” means an order under that Act committing a person to the care of a fit person.

Extent Information

E2 This version of this provision extends to N.I. only; a seperate version has been created for E.W. only

Textual Amendments

F12 Words in s. 25(1) substituted (N.I.) by S.R. & O. (N.I.) 1973/256, art. 3, Sch. 2

F13 Words in s. 25(1) substituted (4.11.1996) by S.I. 1995/756, art. 7(2); S.R. (N.I.) 1996/297, art. 3

F14 Words in s. 25(1) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, art. 8(1)(a)(ii).

F15 Words in s. 25(1) repealed (4.11.1996) by S.I. 1995/756, art. 15, Sch.; S.R. (N.I.) 1996/297, art.3

F16 S. 25(1A) inserted (4.11.1996) by S.I. 1995/756, art. 7(3); S.R. (N.I.) 1996/297, art.3

F17 Words substituted (N.I.) by virtue of S.I. 1973/2163, arts. 2(1), 11(5), Sch. 1

F18 Words in s. 25(2) inserted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, art. 8(1)(b)(i)(ii).

F19 Words inserted by Health and Social Services and Social Security Adjudications Act 1983 (c. 41, SIF 113:3), Sch. 2 para. 15

F20 Words in s. 25(2) omitted (14.10.1991) by virtue of S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(b)(iii)

F21 Words in s. 25(2) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(b)(iv)

F22 Words in s. 25(2) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(b)(v).

F23 Words repealed (N.I.) by S.R. & O. (N.I.) 1973/256, art. 3, Sch. 2

F24 Words in s. 25(3) omitted (14.10.1991) by virtue of S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(c)(i).

F25 Words in s. 25(3) substituted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(c)(ii).

F26 Words in s. 25(3)(b) inserted (14.10.1991) by S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(c)(iii)

F27 S. 25(3)(b)(i) omitted (14.10.1991) by virtue of S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(c)(iv)

F28 Words in s. 25(4) omitted (14.10.1991) by virtue of S.I. 1991/2032, reg. 8(1)(d).

F29 Words in s. 25(5) substituted (N.I.) by S.R. & O. (N.I.) 1973/256, art. 3, Sch. 2

Modifications etc. (not altering text)

C3 Ss. 25, 26: power to amend conferred (14.10.1991) by Children Act 1989 (c. 41, SIF 20), s. 101(5)(a), (with Sch. 14 para. 1(1)); S.I. 1991/828, art. 3(2)

C4 S. 25(2): Certain functions transferred (N.I.) by S.I. 1973/2163, Sch. 1

C5 S. 25(2) excluded by Army Act 1955 (c. 18, SIF 7:1), Sch. 5A para. 7(4), Air Force Act 1955 (c. 19, SIF 7:1) Sch. 5A para. 7(4) and Naval Discipline Act 1957 (c. 53, SIF 7:1), Sch. 4A para. 7(4) (Schs. 5A para. 7(3) of the said Acts of 1955 and Sch. 4A of the 1957 Act substituted (14.10.1991) by Children Act 1989 (c. 41, SIF 20), s. 108(4), Sch. 12 paras. 8. 10, 18 (with Sch. 14 para. 1(1)); S.I. 1991/828, art. 3(2)

Marginal Citations

M2 1968 c. 34 (N.I.)